Dear All,

Yet, we are not talking about a forest of platforms, Mike mentioned an excellent one : Slack.
Why can't we have on the one hand an email list serving a specific purpose, the one expected by the people who recently unsubscribed (and won't have access anymore), and on the other hand a tool/platform serving another purpose?
The division is very clear, no one will get upset, no one will lose anything.

Have a nice day !
Pierre Choffe

2016-04-27 12:56 GMT+02:00 Amalyah Keshet <[log in to unmask]>:

I a​gree totally with Makx. I've seen too many good groups / discussions get lost because they were diluted in a forest of other platforms.

It is standard procedure to have an "unsubscribe" link at the bottom of any and every listserv message.

Amalyah Keshet
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From: Discussion list for Europeana Technical Developments <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Makx Dekkers <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 19:26

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I would not be in favour of opening Yet-Another-Communication-Channel. E-mail works fine, at least for me. The fact that some people don’t want to be on the list and create some spam trying to sign off should not be a reason to change a way of working that’s tried and tested.


We may want to consider other channels once we get threads with hundreds of messages and megabytes of attachments, but not for the kinds of relatively light discussions we’re seeing now.


I do agree with Mike’s suggestion to include a standard footer. Simple and useful.





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Sent: 26 April 2016 16:35
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Second Mike's call for a Slack channel for such topics.


On 26 April 2016 at 11:08, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Three things, aside from the pretty scary “apparently don’t know how to use email lists” thing (from people who claim to be tech/IT literate !!?):


1) I personally think it’s better to keep stuff in one place where possible - although in this thread I’m not hugely interested in the subject matter, I find it useful to see what *sort* of discussions are going on, even if they’re not my thing. But perhaps something like a public Slack channel would be good for this sort of discussion if it has to spring off? The nice thing about Slack is you can mute it for periods of time and apply filters for topic keywords - rather better and more conversational than a wiki, IMO


2) Maybe the list admin should do the same as many lists - including MCG in the uk - which is to include links to unsubscribe (and any other relevant things - website, etc) in the footer of all incoming mail? Here’s what the MCG include:




3) The list admin should probably step in and unsubscribe those who have requested it - or at least send them a personal email to show them how. Sending unsubscribe instructions to a list that clearly isn’t reading the list is going to self-perpetuate the entire problem all over again :-)









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On 26 April 2016 at 10:35:39, Jiří Frank ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

Dear all,


I completely agree with Jos Van Dyck and thanks Pat for stepping forward form the museums and metadata standards world, where we are heavily involved.


It is quite pity to see, that attendees of Europeana tech list, are not able to read emails and unsubscribe them self from the list according provided instructions. The question is how they appeared in this mailing list? It should obviously happen by accident.


Is it possible to open specific topic channel?


Kind Regards,



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Od: "J. Van Dyck (NGM bvba)" <[log in to unmask]>

Odesláno: 26.4.2016 10:29:34

Předmět: Re: Question about data models or standards for representing exhibitions?


Dear folks,


What a pity that so few people seem to be interested in data modeling!

However, it are the data models that define the usefulness of databases, what you can find etc.

The input of experienced librarians, archivists etc. is very important.

I want to encourage folks to participate nevertheless.


Kind regards,

Jos Van Dyck

NGM bvba

Mechelen (Belgium)



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Verzonden: maandag 25 april 2016 19:55
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Onderwerp: Re: Question about data models or standards for representing exhibitions?

Hi all


So, I certainly do not want to be removed (an I know how to unsubscribe ;-)


The discussion around standards and data models for exhibitions is very interesting.


Maybe to get inspiration have a look at (Biodiversity Information Standards)   



I think these networks will be very interested by the discussion and there are possible nice collaborations to explore here. We have been working on standards that could fit nicely.


With my best wishes




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