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EUROPEANA-TECH  December 2019

EUROPEANA-TECH December 2019

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Re: It is FAIR but is it ethical?

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Patricia Mergen <[log in to unmask]>

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Patricia Mergen <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 2 Dec 2019 04:37:00 +0000

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Dear all

Well because when it comes to traditionnel knowledge or other requirements like traceability and citation of the source in any case of reuse if you put the metadata in cc by sa you comply to these requirements but according to agreed definitions your data remains open and FAIR, so you can keep such data on EUROPEANA and get more of such data. If you do not comply either you do not get it or would need to delete it in future.

Citation and traceability can be automated so does not hamper machine learning or re use of large datasets as it was the case before ...

CC0 should remain preferred recommendations, but if you want more data, especially if there are ethical aspects, you should consider to be open to other lisencing on you metadata which other large data portals allow. If you do it you could for many reasons get much richer metadata.

All the best

Pat
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From: Makx Dekkers [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 01 December 2019 20:59
To: Patricia Mergen ; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: It is FAIR but is it ethical?

I would think that metadata should still be CC0 – if data is deleted for one reason or other, the metadata could then still inform the users why the data was deleted, and with such a fully open licence that information can then be propagated through the network.



In what way would a more restrictive licence for metadata avoid the need to delete the metadata?



Makx.







-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for Europeana Technical Developments <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Patricia Mergen
Sent: 01 December 2019 10:54
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: It is FAIR but is it ethical?



Sorry last sentence should read without losing its FAIRness status.



Patricia.

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From: Discussion list for Europeana Technical Developments [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Patricia Mergen [[log in to unmask]]

Sent: 01 December 2019 10:07

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: It is FAIR but is it ethical?



Dear all



Indeed there are matter of traditional knowledge, access and benefit sharing, where such data and media have in any case of reuse be traceable and citable to the source of origin. See for example this ongoing process https://www.cbd.int/dsi-gr/2019-2020/



Data are considered Open even if cc -by sa while CC0 is preferred. But to respect traditional knowledge and if you want to show and keep such data , Europeana should consider to allow such licences on its metadata to avoid to have to delete them from the portal in future



As for FAIR data can be even FAIR if not open date or behind a payroll for access or re use, as they are findable and reusable as such. data with ethical issues can be FAIR and yet behind a login (ie not suitable for underaged) or because of a patent or any other reason with losing its status of FAIRness.



All the best



Pat









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From: Discussion list for Europeana Technical Developments [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Michael Fingerhut [[log in to unmask]]

Sent: 30 November 2019 21:11

To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: It is FAIR but is it ethical?



Sorry for not having mentioned it and so thanks for reminding me, as I think it has relevance (for instance one of its aspects, "Data governance").



-- Michael



Le 30/11/2019 à 20:02, Makx Dekkers a écrit :

At the session, I mentioned the CARE principles. For more details: https://www.gida-global.org/care. Not entirely relevant for the issue Michael raises, but it does include the E for ethics.



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