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EUROPEANA-TECH  December 2019

EUROPEANA-TECH December 2019

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Re: Preserving the future so as to provide enriched meaning to the heritage of the past

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Antoine Isaac <[log in to unmask]>

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Antoine Isaac <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 16 Dec 2019 11:13:39 +0100

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Dear Martin, 
 
Thanks. I'll come back to you via personal email. 
 
Antoine 
 
On 16/12/2019 10:59, Martín Gómez-Ullate García de León wrote: 
> Dear Antoine & Colleagues, 
>  
>  From the University of Extremadura (Spain) we are supervising a thesis on classification and mapping of Musical Heritage. We have tried to contact Europeana by the stated means (emailing Henning Scholz) to be a data provider and to get some support on the subject... But we haven`t  got any answer)... 
>  
> We would appreciate very much any help you can give us on this matter. 
>  
> Best wishes, 
>  
> Martín Gómez-Ullate 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Profesor/Investigador 
> Grupo de Inv. "Patrimonio Musical, Cultura y Educación" 
> Depto, Didáctica de la Expresión Musical, Plástica y Corporal 
> Fac. Formación del Profesorado 
> Universidad de Extremadura 
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Gomez-Ullate 
>  
> Researcher/Lecturer 
> "Musical Heritage, Culture and Education" Research Group 
> Teacher Training College 
> University of Extremadura 
>  
>  
> El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 1:48, Antoine Isaac (<[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>) escribió: 
>  
>     Dear Michael, all, 
>  
>     Reacting (a bit late sorry) on the aspect of content in your email. Assuming that what you mean here is text content, Europeana is working on indexing the two main types of texts that is sent to us by providers: newspapers, which is already done, and annotations (mainly transcriptions for now), which is work in progress. 
>     There are experiments for indexing content in some projects, for example here: 
>     https://pro.europeana.eu/project/saint-george-on-a-bike 
>     But this is still quite experimental. 
>  
>     Best, 
>  
>     Antoine 
>  
>     On 30/11/2019 12:21, Michael Fingerhut wrote: 
>      > Thank you to those who expressed - here and privately - interest in this idea. Here are a few additional thoughts about this. 
>      > 
>      > Aggregating such ephemereal newsletters, putting them online (so as to provide additional visibility to the future activities of the partners) and preserving them for future research are just a starting point. As the keynote speech of Frédéric Kaplan brilliantly illustrated, intelligent analysis of documents can extract very meaningful time-stamped information - in the case of Time Machine about the history of a city: here, it is mostly (email) text and images, which usually provide time-stamped information about events related to works. EDM is well-prepared to ingest in its metadata event-based contents and link them to actual works it already references. 
>      > 
>      > But implementing this requires - as does the Time Machine project do - analyzing the /contents/ of the newsletters. This addresses a larger issue: why isn't the content of all the works referenced in Europeana (at least) indexed*? Compare the home page of Europeana to that of any large search engine (no names here) or repository (archive.org <http://archive.org>, Gallica, RetroNews, etc.): at its center, there is a search box. But there is an essential difference: in those engines and repositories, the search is performed in actual contents. Not in Europeana. Whence the results of such searches are really poor in comparison. I still believe such a central portal as Europeana should provide the best search tools in the cultural contents (text, for sure, but why not images, music, etc.), as do some of its related projects/partners/providers. 
>      > 
>      > One could also make a comparison of the preservation and indexing of newsletters to that of the preservation and indexing of newspapers: the latter is becoming increasingly important and available online. But newsletters? They are the modern form of newspapers. Paper is much easier to access (the support, that is), if you don't do it today, tomorrow it is still likely to be around. But a newsletter has to be at least preserved very rapidly (within weeks or less), as part or all of its contents will disappear. 
>      > 
>      > -- Michael 
>      > 
>      > * I had suggested such a feature (content indexing) in an early Europeana meeting and in a letter sent to Jill Cousins dated 20 May 2008 (no typo in the year). For historical purpose only, let me mention that it included additional suggestions about how to harvest content providers (which protocols to use), the need for providers to present their metadata in a "common metadata model (or profile) which is rich enough to preserve the information on inter- and intra- metadata relationships in the original metadata, such as relation of item to collection(s), roles of persons mentioned in records, author/title association in the subject fields, and so on", about developing (in Europeana) "powerful mining techniques (in the metadata, but also in the remote data, if available) that would allow it (Europeana) to discover relationships which were not expressed in the original metadata, and add them to the underlying search and navigation services", and "last but not least", user 
>      > enrichment...  This was proposed in 2008. 
>      > 
>      > Le 28/11/2019 à 17:35, Carla Fernandes a écrit : 
>      >> Dear Michael, 
>      >> I support this idea of yours! 
>      >> Looking forward and sending best wishes, 
>      >> Carla 
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